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Why research logbooks?

What is the cost?

When should I have logbooks researched?

The logbooks we research

What do we find

Information for Pre-purchases

How long does it take?

How do we research logbooks?

What we know about logbooks?

What do we look for?

About accident history

AD research

How are the results written?

How can I have a set of logbooks researched?

How do I get billed?

Special Services

 

Logbook Research

 

Why research logbooks?

            The logbook’s reliability / correctness and records are the responsibility of the aircraft owner and not the maintenance personnel who do the work or recording.  Often owners do not have a working knowledge of what is required by the FAA for Airworthiness or what should be entered in the log books.  This is an area where log book research can be helpful.    

            Research determines that all the FAA requirements are being met, the maintenance personnel are performing quality work and recording it correctly and that no inspections or maintenance pertinent to the aircraft is being overlooked or missed.  It is also used to determine the quality of recorded work, if there is any damage history or repairs, and 337’s for repairs and alterations.  This all reflects on the value and reliability of the aircraft and may indicate future problems or long-term concerns.  There is often a pattern of maintenance recorded in the books that precedes future expensive maintenance.    

 


What is the cost?

            Since the charges are set by the quality of the logbooks, we can call with an estimate after the books are received.  We accept payment by check, MasterCard or VISA.  The prices vary from $50.00 per logbook for an easy set to $100.00 per book for a difficult set.  The difficulty of the books as to legibility and continent determines the cost per book. 

 


 When should I have logbooks researched?

             The best times to think about logbook research are when considering the purchase of an aircraft and when considering selling aircraft.  By all means when purchasing an aircraft get a pre-purchase from a shop that is familiar with that type aircraft, but does not do the maintenance on that particular one.  Pre-purchases are always very helpful in determining the quality of the aircraft.  However, it is wise to have the log books evaluated on a periodic basis for long-term owners as a second opinion on the quality of work being received.  This helps avoid problems further down the road with maintenance and records.    

 


The logbooks we research

            We specialize in piston-powered certified aircraft.  We are not familiar enough with the maintenance practices of turbine aircraft to provide the quality of service we desire.  

 


What do we find

            We look for the maintenance history of the airframe, its damage history that is recorded, status of different airframe components determined by the type and model of aircraft.  We check the records for tire, brake discs and linings, motors and control cable replacements and their frequency or lack of it.  Instrument replacements, vacuum pump and filter replacements are checked on frequency or lack of record.  Engine components / accessories replacements / overhauls are checked for and correlated as to time between as well as the engine history.  Engine history includes cylinder replacements, total time, time since major overhaul, who did the overhaul and when.  Status of all pertinent Airworthiness Directives is checked as well Manufacturer’s recommendations, time limits and specifications.    We also look for problems that are peculiar to the aircraft model and design and the engine.  We record last maintenance on all those items pertinent to aircraft and look for missing inspections, slow flight period and unusual periods of down-time which can be questionable.    


Information for Pre-purchases:

            Sometimes even a very professional pre-purchase does not include a complete inspection of the logbooks because it is often very time consuming to read them thoroughly. We can help you in determining whether an aircraft should be considered for purchase by looking at the maintenance status, damage history and AD’s recorded or not recorded in the log books.  We can look for things that should be recorded for that particular aircraft model, type and age; these items make the aircraft either more valuable or less reliable purchase.  These are items that would determine whether the aircraft was headed toward difficulties, was poorly maintained or was well maintained and appears to be a good purchase.    

 


How long does it take?

            The length of time required is determined by the state of the logbooks themselves.  Typewritten / computerized entries are easier to read and therefore take less time to understand.  However, most log book entries (particularly older ones) are hand written and some are almost illegible and difficult to decipher and understand.  Those take longer and require a greater concentration, greater knowledge of aircraft terminology and the ability to read between the lines.  This does not mean that some great maintenance was not accomplished, only that the mechanic himself did the entry and had lost some of his fine motor skills by being a mechanic.  Also logbook entries can become very faded or water stained and this makes them almost unreadable.  It can take from ½ hour for an easy logbook to more than an hour for a difficult book.  Determining status sometimes takes more than one reading and constant going back to review.    


How do we research logbooks?

            We read them, recording when different items have been accomplished, Airworthiness Directive and Service Bulletin status of airframe, engine and all the accessories.  We record engine total time, time since major overhaul, time since top overhaul, cylinder replacements and who the work was accomplished by and when.  We check for time intervals on engine accessories, airframe motors and all the manufacturer’s recommendations on time limits and servicing for the aircraft and engine.  We also check for 337s for repair or alteration and damage history to the airframe, propeller or engine.  We check for instrument replacement, vacuum pump and filters replacements.  We check on tire, brake discs and linings replacement frequency.  We also check for the lack of the above records.  Each model of aircraft has design weaknesses that are peculiar to it alone and look for recorded work in regard to them.    

 


What we know about logbooks?

            They are at times very difficult to read and comprehend, particularly those that are faded or almost illegible and the mechanic assumes that you can read between the lines and follow him.  These books are almost illegible because of fading, water spotting, and mechanic’s poor handwriting.  We have an understanding of the terminology peculiar to aviation, a fairly well developed ability to read the almost unreadable and a working knowledge of most small general aviation aircraft and piston engines.  We know what should be recorded and what can be recorded to cover something that should have been recorded.       

 


What do we look for?

            We check the following items:

            Maintenance status on items that have time / calendar limits for both airframe and engine components / accessories.

            Items that should be inspected / replaced at regular intervals.

            Unusual replacement of some items:

Too many tire changes, brake disc and linings replacements,

Lots of instrument work, vacuum pump and filter replacements

Cylinder or accessory changes

Or too few of the above

            Times where there has been little flight time

            Unusual period of down-time or no flight between inspection

            Replacement of hoses

            What was replaced when the engine was overhauled or replaced

            Airworthiness Directives / Service Bulletins

            Missing inspections and things that should have been recorded for aircraft integrity 

            Accident  / damage history, parts replacement

            Propeller changes / overhauls    


About accident history

            Accident history helps determine the value of aircraft.  It also helps determine the aircraft’s reliability and the possibility of future or present structural problems that may not be noticed.  If accident repairs are not done correctly or to a level in accordance with the manufacture, structural problems can develop through weakening / stressing components / skins or structure.  The re-repair of the damage can be extremely expensive and may not provide the stability desired.    


AD research

            AD research is done to determine whether all the applicable AD’s are complied with or signed off as not applicable and that the FAA requirements are being met.  This is the owner’s responsibility to oversee and not the maintenance personnel’s even though they are doing the recording.  Most owners do not have a working knowledge of the AD’s and rely upon the mechanic / inspector to take care of them.    


How are the results written?

            The results of the research are written in the form of a report listing the most recent replacements for various items, engine total time, time since overhaul, cylinder replacements, and manufacturer’s time before overhaul recommendation.  The overhauled and date will also be listed along with a list of when overhauls on accessories and other items should be accomplished.  There will be a list of items, replacements or inspection missing if there are any.  Whether there was any accident /damage history with when it was repaired, by who and flight time will be listed with whether this might jeopardize the aircraft’s reliability or cause future problems.  Any questionable entries, time periods, unusual down-times will be listed.  There will also be a list of what might need to be checked and watched in the future.    


How can I have a set of logbooks researched?

            First call 520-363-5175 or 1-800-262-9644 to get information.  We will need a full copy of all the logbooks.  It is not recommended that you send the logs themselves as they might get lost in process and are irreplaceable.    

 


How do I get billed?

             Since the charges are set by the quality of the logbooks, we can call with an estimate after the books are received.  We accept payment by check, MasterCard or VISA.  The prices vary from $50.00 per logbook for an easy set to $100.00 per book for a difficult set.  The difficulty of the books as to legibility and continent determines the cost per book.         


Special Services

        If you would like for your faded, illegible hand-written books to be typed / computerized, we can provide that service for you.  The cost of the service would be determined while the books are being evaluated.  The cost is determined by the difficulty to read, number of pages and quantity of continent.  

 


 

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